Flu shot For Protection Against Coronavirus?

When it comes to the mainstream media and vaccines, there is one clear message. Vaccines are safe and effective. It also seems that the more vaccines, the better. With this in mind and coronavirus phenomena, this spring we are already seeing the media promote flu shots as for protection against coronavirus.

An an example here is a recent article promoting this idea.

As quoted by CDC director Robert Redfield:

One of the greatest tools we have as we go through the fall-winter season is to get the American public to embrace the influenza vaccine and thereby minimize the impact of flu to be the other respiratory disease we confront

Expect to see many more such statements from the main stream media, CDC and drug industry about the importance of getting the flu shot to protect against coronavirus.

This represents a one size fits all approach to health. Vaccines are the answer. Everyone needs them. The more the better. Nothing can possibly go wrong.

However, the problem with cold and flu like illnesses is that there are so many different pathogens. All of the following may cause cold flu like illness: influenza, rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, human respiratory syncytial virus, adenoviruses, parainfluenza virus, Legionella, Chlamydia pneumonia, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Streptococcus pneumoniae.

To make matters even more complicated, viruses can have different strains. This is why they bring out a different flu shot each year, to try to match the strain that is already out there. By now we all know that coronavirus (nothing new, known for decades as a common cold virus) has different strains. So according to the vaccinate everything model, we don't just need a lot more vaccines. We would have to be constantly updating them to match how viruses mutate and adapt in nature.

The CDC does not seem interested in other methods, such as healthy living, vitamins, herbs supplements, IV vitamin C, ozone therapy or even medications.

How Many Vaccines Do We Need

How far can the vaccinate everything strategy go? The childhood vaccine schedule has significantly increased in size since the 1980s. We are also the rise in vaccine for adults.

Of course there is not much money in advocating natural methods that keep your immune system up and running. With the recent push for vaccine mandata, a single vaccine that be forced upon 300 million American can rake in billions.

Basic questions are not being asked. Some questions I would have are:

  • Is it safe to combine vaccines together
  • Can one vaccine effect the immune system so people are more susceptible to other infections

The following are a few well known problems with vaccine saftey:

  1. Vaccines are tested against healthy people, and then given to everyone. So if there are people with certain illnesses who will not response well to vaccines, this may not be seen in trials.

  2. Vaccines are not tested in combination. In trials it is just one vaccine at a time. In real life many may be given at one. If a hypothetical coronavirus vaccine is created, will patients be expected to get it the same day or shortly after their flu shot?

  3. Vaccines are not tested against placebo. Whenever a new drug is tested, there is a placebo group. They are given an inert substance, such as a sugar pill as a control group to compare to those given the drug. Vaccines however are not considered drugs. They are “biologics,” and thus do not need to be tested against true placebo. Vaccine trial often mention placebos, but the term is misleading. Vaccine are not tested against a true placebo which would be a saline injection. They are tested against other vaccines or vaccine adjuvants. Therefore, the true effect of vaccines are not known based upon trial, as the “placebo” agents are biologically active.

When we combine all this together, we start to see a scary picture. A vaccine everything agenda means new adult vaccines will not stop at one for the novel coronavirus that causes covid-19. There are many more infections that vaccines can be developed for.

For each new vaccine we can expect the following:

  • Tested only against other vaccines or adjuvants, not true innert placebo

  • Only tested in a healthy population, then given to everyone upon release

  • There will be no testing of the new, upcoming adult vaccine schedule against simply not taking any vaccines.

We know this to be true, because this is how childhood vaccines and schedule are developed.

Virus Interference

This article raises a question about flu shot safety and coronavirus. Does getting a flu shot raise your chance of coming down with another infection which causes cold and flu like symptoms?

The following link goes to a large study which looked at flu shot status and compared to rates of other infections.

Buried in the middle of data we can find the following

Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals

People who had flu shot where 36% more likely to test for coronavirus. They were also 51% more likely to test for human metapneumonia infection.

To be fair, the article also says that rates of other infections decreased in those who had the flu shot.

Conversely, all other non-influenza respiratory viruses had decreased odds in the vaccinated population, including significantly decreased odds ratios in vaccinated people with parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections

So we can see that the flu shot does more than simply trigger a response against the flu. It changes response against many viral infections.

Flu Shot For Coronavirus and Covid-19 Prevention?

What conclusions someone wants to draw from this study depends on what they do with the statistics. Data can be pulled and quoted to support the virus interference theory, or to dismiss is.

As the old saying goes, there are lies, damm lies and statistics.

Based on the data for many infections besides influenza the flu shot seemed to be protective. For coronavirus and human metapneumonia, there was increased risk. If all these results are averaged in together we can arrive at the same conclusion in the paper’s closing remark.

The overall results of the study showed little to no evidence supporting the association of virus interference and influenza vaccination.

However, the data is not clear on what exactly is going on, or why the flu shot seems to change rates for so many other infections.

The reason I’m posting this however is because the upcoming sell by the media to get a flu shot because of coronavirus. The results for this was clear. Flu shot was associated with increase in testing positive for coronavirus. It is not protective.